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Wild for Frequency
Wild for Frequency explores the human experience through the lens of frequency. Your host, Holly Copeland is an ecologist, mystic, and lover of all things related to sound, frequency, and music. She draws on her expertise as a scientist and lifelong student of spirituality to bring you conversations with thought leaders and experts on how the vibratory nature of the universe operates within our human bodies and shapes every aspect of our world.
Wild for Frequency
Consciousness, Coherence, and Frequency with Jennifer K Hill
Discover the transformative power of frequency with Jennifer K Hill, Evolutionary Leader and CEO of OptiMatch. In this episode, we explore how tuning into the right frequencies—through voice and innovative tools like the Healy device—can elevate well-being, deepen connections, and align you with your highest potential.
From overcoming limiting beliefs to cultivating harmony in relationships, Jennifer shares practical insights and wisdom that bridge ancient teachings with modern science. Tune in to uncover how simple shifts in energy and awareness can guide you toward a more balanced, connected, and inspired life.
Connect with Jennifer:
OptiMatch: https://om.app/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferkhill/
Connect with Holly:
Website: https://hollycopeland.co
IG: @rewilding.anearthlinglovestory
Healy: https://hollycopeland.co/healy
1:1 Coaching: https://www.hollycopeland.co/innerrewilding
Biofield Tuning: https://www.hollycopeland.co/energy-healing
Hello and welcome to Wild for Frequency, a show where we explore our energetic universe, the frequencies that make up that universe, and how we can use frequency in everything that we do to improve our lives. And today I'm delighted to bring you my conversation with evolutionary leader and CEO of OptiMatch, jennifer K Hill. Jennifer and I have been friends for several years now and I am always so inspired by our conversations. She travels the world intersecting with luminaries like Bruce Lipton and Greg Brayden and, as she shared, she has over 183 healing practices that she uses for herself, and so I found so much practical wisdom in this conversation.
Speaker 2:There was actually an earthquake about halfway through this conversation, and one of the themes was this potent time we are in and the way that we can use the tools of frequency, like the global coherence pulse that she described, to bring humanity together, and that theme wove throughout our conversation. So I think it's a very important conversation at a very important time, and I feel like you'll get a lot out of this. So I bring you my conversation with Jennifer K Hill. Hello, jennifer K Hill, I am so excited and delighted to have you here joining us today. Thank you so much for taking the time to be with us.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, Holly. It's great to be back with you again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I have been listening to the conversations that you've been in with Lee Holden most recently, and then I just know that you are so engaged in this global movement that has frequency at the heart of so much of what you know whether it's Greg Braden or, you know friends, bruce Lipton that there's a, there's an embedded.
Speaker 2:You know, the energetic frequency based universe is at the heart of so much of it, and so I'm really excited to talk to you, because I know that you are in those conversations and what I really want to bring today for people is you know, how do you see this information and this knowledge, what are the tools and techniques and also just how we can use this information to improve our lives in any way. And so you know I guess I just want to open it up with you know, because you're playing in this field what are you? And this is such a pivotal and incredible time in history. You know, as we move into the Aquarian age, as we are in this great process where so much shifting is taking place, so many people are going through incredible transitions in their lives and we're on the precipice of a whole new era, and what are you seeing in terms of people's understanding about frequency and how we can use frequency in our everyday lives to help us through these shifts.
Speaker 1:Thank you, holly. As you and I have talked about many times before in different projects that we've collaborated on, frequency is everything. It begins with the sound of the voice and these few seconds that you've heard me speak. You've either immediately decided that you can trust me or you can't trust me, and that is all based on the frequency, the tonality, not only what I'm saying, but how I'm saying it.
Speaker 1:I remember many years ago, before I met a dear friend of mine and business partner, arthur Samuel Joseph, who wrote a great book I highly recommend, called vocal leadership. Listen to it on audible, if you can before Arthur and I started working together. If you were to Google my name and look at some speeches I gave, probably over a decade ago, it's almost laughable. I literally used to sound like this Holly, I'm going to try and take myself out of the work I've been doing for a decade now with Arthur, but this is how I used to sound. Hi, my name is Jennifer Cahill and it's so great to be here with you and I'm going to talk quickly and you're going to have to keep up with it, because that's just how I am. It's like, oh God, it just like makes me feel like, oh, I can't even energetically do that anymore.
Speaker 1:And the reason I give such a stark example of that is that it all comes down to psychological safety. How safe do we feel when we listen to each other? How safe do we feel when we're around other people and that's what I've made it my life's work. To do is to understand the frequency of people, of not just the energy of our voices, like the work that I've done with Arthur and others, but the energy of who we're being ontologically as human beings, the energy that we choose to surround ourselves with vibrationally, whether it's a place we choose to live, people we choose to surround ourselves with the tools we choose to use. I'm a huge fan of David Hawkins' work. Have you read any of David Hawkins' books?
Speaker 2:Yes, he has Power Versus Force. It's an incredible book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Power Versus Force and Letting Go are two of my favorites and for those of you not familiar with Hawkins' work, I was introduced to it about four years ago and the idea is that you have these different frequencies and bandwidths of consciousness and I think the lowest one I probably have it saved on my desktop is fear or shame.
Speaker 1:And eventually, maybe, you get up to level 200, which is courage I think it's a scale of zero to 1000, if I'm remembering correctly, of zero to a thousand, if I'm remembering correctly and then, once you get past courage, you get to level 400, one day maybe, of rationality, and then maybe one day you reach a level 500 of love, and 550 is joy and 600, I believe, is peace and, eventually, enlightenment. And as we evolve as human beings, we begin to feel into the frequency and vibration of where am I at, where are you at, not in a judgmental sort of way, just as a barometer of asking ourselves and being in the inquiry is this the frequency I'm choosing to embody in this moment? Is this a frequency that I choose to be in with my friends, with my family? And if not, then you get to make choices that do align with that.
Speaker 1:And so, whether we're talking about to make choices that do align with that, and so, whether we're talking about technologies like biofeedback, such as the Healy which I know you brought me into, holly, and I'm a huge fan of I have my Healy right here and use it daily on myself and a lot of other people Whether it's the frequency of biofeedback energetically, whether it's the frequency of the neurons in our brain, and what frequencies we're feeding from our heart. What are we feeding the field, as Dr Roland McCready always says, from HeartMath? These are all frequencies that give us the experience of Holly, of Jennifer, of each one of you out there listening, and the more that we can attune ourselves and get curious about the frequencies we embody or don't embody, the more that we reach freedom and happiness.
Speaker 2:Oh, so beautifully said. So much of what you said resonates and as I listen to you speak to you speak it it. You know, this idea of what we are, the frequency that we are choosing to embody, and understanding that we're making that choice and then, you know, choosing a frequency of love. You know, it's like I remember being in a in a conversation, meditation with our friend Altair and I had this aha of like, oh, if I'm angry, I'm actually embodying and choosing the frequency of anger. That's whatever you're aware of. You become Like you are that in that moment, and I know it's such a simple idea, but I think we tend to think that it's something that's sort of out there and like we have it for a moment. We don't actually realize that we, at that moment, have embodied that frequency.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was another wonderful healer I know here in Portugal, long before you introduced me to the healy he had. I think it's called Scion S-C-I-O-N. A device, a biofeedback device he used, and I will always remember the first time I went to see him for a session. I am always getting referred wonderful healers and modalities, and so a friend of mine had referred me to this guy, dr Jose, and I go to his office and, if I'm being very candid with you, I had forgotten what the heck you did and why I was there. It's like, yeah, I had booked an appointment a long time ago, and so that morning, prior to going to see Dr Jose, something had overcome me, holly, and I was enraged. I was so angry and I was using every tool I have 183 tools I use at any given moment to help align myself or coaching clients I work with. And so I tried every tool I could think of that morning and finally I just fell to my hands and knees and begged the universe to help me. I said, please, I need to release this anger and I just can't find a way. And I always remember walking into Dr Jose's office and he gave me kind of an overview and said, okay, I'm going to sit you up and hook you up to her. He calls it a her and she's going to help you know, release anything and balance. I'm like, okay, all right, we'll see what this is all about. And he hooks this thing up to my head and he says, oh, oh well, jennifer, if I may, the first thing I'm seeing here, she says you're very angry and I said yes, yes, I am very angry, very angry. He said, oh, would you like her to help you release that? And I just remember going oh my gosh, this is exactly what I had fallen on my hands and knees and begged for a solution on this morning was how do I release the stuck pent-up anger that I had?
Speaker 1:So, to your point, it's like we, as altar says, you know, we just embody the anger. We embody the this or that. Yeah, we are. When we're conscious of it, at least we have a choice do we stay in that frequency or do we use one of our tools or vibrations to shift it. But when we're unconscious of it, that's the scariest part.
Speaker 1:Like my co-founder at one point and I had an interesting discussion this year, we were on a Zoom call and when we got on the Zoom call, I could feel there was space. Speaking of frequency, I could tell there was some sort of dissonance between us. And I love Julian. He's like a brother to me. He helped me sell the last company, was my business coach, has been co-founder of this company.
Speaker 1:I said, jules, wtf, what's going on, buddy?
Speaker 1:Like, why are you so? Like what's in the space between us? And he said well, jennifer, I've been meaning to tell you for a while. It's not working for me. There's something that I have to share with you. I said okay, what is it? And he said well, you're treating me like I. How it occurs for me is you're treating me like an employee and not a partner, and that you don't respect me anymore.
Speaker 1:I said, holy crap, jules. No, not at all at the conscious level. No, I said, but I'm willing to check in and see if I'm not aware of it. I immediately went into muscle testing and I muscle tested myself and sure as heck, just to the point of we can't work on the things we're not aware of, I checked myself on both and he was right. I had a limiting belief on both that I was completely unaware of at a conscious level that as soon as I was able to pull it from the subconscious to the conscious, I was able to transmute it. And we look back and we laugh at that story now and how many of us just don't even realize we're walking around with all of these limiting beliefs. As you referenced Bruce Lipton, the Biology of Belief one of the best books ever written on that. We all are this pile of limiting beliefs interacting with other people's, piles of limiting beliefs that we're completely unaware of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, super powerful. Thank you for that powerful share. And you know I heard actually it was Pam Gregory. I just my favorite astrologer, all astrologers, and she said on her show recently, you know, just saying the words out loud, I am choosing anger, you know, is a very powerful way to acknowledge and state what is true. And I'm curious, like when I hear you say that it's like to the degree that we can become aware of these, you know these limiting beliefs, and then actually like just acknowledge that it frees up the energy to allow it to move when we understand we're choosing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the other. I'll give you another tool is have you read the book Viktor Frankl Man's Search for Meaning?
Speaker 1:I have not Brilliant, brilliant book. It's hard read. About his time, you know, being a captive in Auschwitz, though, interestingly, one of my favorite parts of the book is he talks about this thing. He created post-freedom in Auschwitz, which is called logotherapy, which is a very famous type of therapy still used to this day because Viktor Frankl was a psychotherapist. And Viktor shares at the end of the book how he has patients who sometimes resist things like.
Speaker 1:He gives an example of a patient who hates to sweat and he's so embarrassed because everywhere he goes he's sweating profusely and he's mortified by this. So Victor instructs him to use a technique I love to use, called paradoxical thinking, where instead of saying I hope I never sweat, I hope I never sweat, I hope I never sweat. He said to his patient I want you to go out, and the next time you're in the world I hope I want you to say to yourself I hope I sweat so much. A river flows behind me, I hope I sweat so much that people need to follow me around with a mop and a bucket. And by flipping the switch and dropping the resistance in much the same way it sounds like I think it was Patricia you were mentioning. When you flip that switch, then all of a sudden, his client no longer sweat and it's one of my favorite ways.
Speaker 1:I have had, on and off again, opportunities for growth in terms of sleep. My brain is wonderfully active I love you brain, you're beautiful and sometimes she has a hard time falling asleep, and especially in the middle of the night. Years ago, when I was running my first company, I would often wake up in the middle of the night. Two, three, four. I'm unable to fall back asleep, and early meetings starting and just feeling paralyzed by, oh my God, I'm not going to survive this.
Speaker 1:So with Viktor Frankl and paradoxical thinking, now when I wake up at 1am or 3am, I'll say I hope I never fall back asleep again. I hope I stay awake for the next three years and nine times out of 10, I can fall back asleep, you know, without anything, yeah. So I'm a fan of that of either choosing and acknowledging and feeling the emotion, if you want, or sometimes just playing with it and dancing with it and dropping the resistance. Either way, I think the point is what we resist persists, and when we can dance with resistance, drop it and transmute it, that's when we have freedom.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent. I love that. Yeah, thank you for sharing that powerful. I love the, the paradoxical thinking technique. I can really, yeah, feel how that could be a very powerful, powerful practice, yeah. So I know that you are, you know, a fan of this beautiful little Healy device that we both have, and I'm so curious to hear you just share some of your experience because there's, you know, there's the, these therapeutic kind of ancient techniques and some more modern psychotherapy techniques to shift and modify energy. But, you know, as these devices like Healy powerful devices, come online, you know, really offers this blending of technology and ancient practices and Qigong, whatever. And so I'm curious for you to share some of you know your experience working with it and how it's been helping you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I found it very helpful for me. Mostly, I'll always remember, holly, when you and I were on a call about this back in like May, and I was getting ready for nonstop travel. This whole year was a lot of travel for me, 2024. And you had said, oh well, there's one thing I like, and where you got me was a plane. You're like, oh well, if you need something to boost your immunity on planes, I just run the defense one. So that has been my go-to personally is using the defense one Like I've been traveling between I think it was September, november I traveled I don't know how many like eight, nine weeks straight, something like that, and, knock on wood, I was healthy every time. Now, granted, I do still.
Speaker 1:I use a combination of many different things. I use the Healy. I have a dear friend of mine, dr Maria Saji, out of Hungary in Budapest, who is a top information healer. So she uses really ancient wisdom based on metaphysics and quantum physics about how the body's missing information and adding information can help. And then I have another wonderful, uh, dear friend and um energy worker I've worked with for 15 years, named Jeannie Elmstrom. So most of the time, because I'm pretty attuned with my body is.
Speaker 1:I use the Healy as a proactive tool and luckily, since I got it from you, I haven't had to use it reactively, because if I have something that I feel like, ooh, I feel like I'm on the verge of something, I'll run extra Healy's and then I'll have Maria or my other friend, jeannie, do a session for me to help me. So I think that's the future of medicine. It's how we used to do. It is going back to proactive rather than reactive care. You don't wait until you're symptomatic to treat something. You proactively look at what's not energetically aligning and then energetically proactively use whatever device or people that you use for healing support to be sure that you don't get really ill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, beautiful, beautiful, yeah. I have found using Healy on the airplane to be a huge help, both from the by um you know defense immune system and also just energetically from the plane static. I don't know if you've noticed this using it, but I've noticed that when I use my Healy over, especially over, um like lights, where I'm, you know, crossing the big oceans um, it helps to like I get off the plane and I just don't feel that kind of exhaustion jet lag that I would have normally felt.
Speaker 1:Um, what do you use? Do you use the mag Healy or just a little square one when you're-.
Speaker 2:I actually use both because I have both, but the regular small square Healy. There is a series of programs called bioenergetic defense and there's one that's like electrosensitivity, and so I'll run electrosensitivity when I'm on the plane and it just feels like it really seems to help with jet lag and with that you know all of the influx of electrical activity on the plane.
Speaker 1:That's really cool. Yeah, I can't say I've used that one on the plane. I use the defense one religiously, like my husband and I were just whenever we travel together to it's like we'll take turns. I'll run an hour long defense on me, then I run an hour long defense on him, then I run an hour long defense on me. We just go back and forth trading who has a Helion? I love it. Yeah, no, it's a knock on wood.
Speaker 1:I'm very, very grateful with given. Since I saw you in May, I probably been on the road four months out of that period. At least in the last seven months, six or seven months and knock on wood, you know been healthy and so many. It's like what a great gift and I have had. I have friends and coaching clients and people I use it with where I just do it to help them, and if it's my mom or my husband or friends, like I have a friend who might have had cancer and so every night I run a nine hour healing on her as I go to sleep. Every night I run a nine hour Healy on her as I go to sleep.
Speaker 2:Amazing, amazing. Yeah, I use it with clients too and and my children, like I send my daughter's frequencies when I wake up in the morning. It's as just part of my daily routine. So, yeah, the ability to send frequencies to a good friend or clients is really phenomenal, yeah.
Speaker 1:I have a checklist of 12 people that I do every day, including my husband and myself, and I just go through the checklist every day to be sure I've done it for every one of us. I have such a funny story about this. So before you had ever told me about the Healy, there was a lovely other woman who was part of our platform, called Kylie, who I think I used to pay her, and before I knew really what the Healy was, all I knew is I would get a stomach ache sometimes and I would pay this woman a hundred dollars and she would run. Whatever this magical device was that I didn't know at the time really was a Healy and I would feel better whenever I had a stomach ache. So that all started. So that's how I use it often for myself, selfishly.
Speaker 1:Not going to lie, I was in Milan in July and my husband and I neither one of us, I don't eat a lot of sugar and he doesn't eat gluten and we're just sitting there gorging ourselves on puff pastries and brought the Healy. All right, let's start out. A stomach ache and something had happened. A few weeks ago I was at Web Summit, which is a big tech conference that happens here in Lisbon and I forgot to bring the heli with. I have like a spare phone that I run the helium people all day long so I don't have to always bring it with me. And I forgot the heli that day and my stomach I must have eaten something, did not was not feeling great. So it was the funniest thing, holly, up until like I I've never really deep dove into the heli, I just kind of have used it.
Speaker 1:I went through my favorite programs that I ran on myself or others and I would run the one minute 20 second one. So I urgently text my husband like honey, I'm like 45 minutes away from the house. I was like here's the instructions for the healing. There's a spare phone sitting there. Here's what you do step one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Can you please run out me?
Speaker 1:He's like, of course, my love. So he runs, he does it and he's like I ran like a super heel on you. I was like, okay, what does that mean? So later that night I get home he shows me what he did. The funniest thing is I'd had this thing for like six months. I didn't know, holly, that you could set how long you could do it for I only knew there was the minute in 21. And so my husband's like look, I run a fair, ran a 54 minute one for you. I was like I didn't know you could do that. So if it hadn't been for me for getting it at home, I would have never known that you could run it for nine hours or four hours or an hour or a half hour for people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing, like you now discovered with your friend, that you can run it nine hours for people that you really feel like need it. You can run it nine hours, you know, for people that you really feel like need it. I love that, I love that story and, yeah, it's an absolutely magical, magical device and I don't know if you've gotten, if you've waded into this world. But there's also special programs that you can get that are above and beyond the set programs. So like, for example, I was healing from mold poisoning and there's actually a mold clearing protocol that you can purchase from a time waiver practitioner. So there's all these actual extended or extra programs. I've actually worked to create some that are aligned with my business. So I have a program called inner rewilding, because my book is all about inner rewilding, and you can purchase the inner rewilding program from me and get support, you know for that. So you can actually create special programs that are aligned with what you know you're bringing into the world, you know.
Speaker 1:That's fun. My other favorite party trick is the Aura one. I love to take it and I love to like I'll be at parties, as at Deepak Singh in Mallorca and a bunch of friends. They were speakers and literally I was healing all my speaker friends. And then I'd be like, okay, guys, let's take a guess. What do you think blah blah blah's aura is today? And so we'd like play a game and guess, like, what people's auras were. It was so much fun and then we'd run it. I had a scientist friend of mine there who was playing with it.
Speaker 2:I love that. I love that. Yeah, there's some real fun. The party tricks you can do also with, like the um the buck, flower remedies and the I Ching. Have you gotten into playing with those much?
Speaker 1:Oh, I haven't even tried those oh you haven't even tried 12 people to heal you every day in a business.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness. Yes, there's a whole, there's a set of programs of resonance scans that you can do, and you can, oh you, just flower remedies, and which I I just lost you can scan Okay.
Speaker 2:Good note when that is. So you can scan all the Bach flower remedies and it will come up with the ones that are the best match for you and then you can run frequencies. You can send yourself those frequencies. There's also a gem crystal scans that you can do and send yourself crystal energies that are super incredible. Australian bushflowers and then the whole I Ching is available. So you can scan all the energies of the I Ching and send yourself those frequencies. And I Ching is actually one of my favorites to do as a party trick, because you can have somebody hold an intention, like something that they want to manifest in the world, and then you run the I Ching on them and it will, you know, bring the I Ching Oracle results. And I have just found that one to be like people are super wowed by what comes up, like it.
Speaker 1:I just did it while you were talking and it's like it says I got 16. You the joy. Enthusiasm symbolizes enthusiasm and awakening. It suggests that a period of activity and positivity is coming. The strong line in the fourth place, that of the leading official, meets with the response and obedience from all other lines, which are weak. The attribute of the upper trigram qian is movement. The attributes of kuan the lower, obedience and devotion. This begins, a movement that meets with devotion therefore inspires enthusiasm, carrying all with it. Of great importance, furthermore, is the law of movement along this line of least resistance which in this hexagram is enunciated and then I can't read what else it says, but that's interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there'll be five of them. So you know, if you look at the next one, you'll see. You know, whatever the next one is below that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it says. Next one is um 32 hang long symbolizes stability, endurance and power. The strong trigram, chen, is above the weak trigram, sun, is below. This hexagram is the inverse of the preceding one. On the latter we have influence. Here we have union as an enduring condition. The two images are thunder and wind, which are likewise.
Speaker 2:Okay, hey sorry, just a second. We just had a little earthquake here. Yeah it was, it was small, but I just thought maybe somebody was moving something outside, but like, oh no, that was an earthquake, oh wild. Okay, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, it's all good. I'm glad you're okay Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, this is so much fun so this will now be my new favorite party trick. What I love too about the aura one is when it says like limiting beliefs you have, because I love to look at that and then I'll muscle test myself and I'd say it's about 70 to 80% accurate. Sometimes I'll check myself or my husband to see if whatever limiting belief it pulls up is accurate, and most of the time it's right, but some one or two out of every 10 I find is off a little bit, but it's fun to try.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I'm curious about muscle testing, like because it's a big part of power versus force and it's something that I'm really incorporating to my own life more and more. I'm curious what. You've run across a lot of people. There's a lot of techniques. What's your favorite technique for muscle testing?
Speaker 1:I can't say that I know different techniques. Bruce Lipton had referred to me a book. I'd have to pull it up and find my notes of what the book was called. But the most important thing that Bruce taught me about it is that you have to keep your head looking straight forward and your eyes looking down when you muscle test, because I used to not be able to muscle test myself Because I guess if you look up you're kind of going into imagination and it's not as effective. And you also have to be well hydrated. I think is another thing For fasting points, because before I learned the way that Bruce taught me how to do it, I didn't know how to meditate or how to muscle test correctly.
Speaker 2:Okay, so keep your eyes forward, so we'll just teach us Eyes down.
Speaker 1:Okay, your eyes looking down, your chin up. And that was what I was taught. So eyes looking down with your chin up is the correct body posture. And then you would say my name is Jennifer, my name is Holly, my name is Bob. I'm lovable. You know that's a good one to always check. I'm lovable. My favorite one to test every day is I do a lot with Louise Hay. Have you done, have you seen Louise Hay's? You Can Heal your Life.
Speaker 2:I have seen it, but I'm not real familiar with it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:A great website that I use that ties in all the limiting beliefs and if you get her book it tells you the limiting beliefs and what it's related to so many. A couple of years ago I think, actually it was last year I was fundraising for a company called OptiMatch and at the time, you know, I was just starting to fundraise and there's a percentage, there's a statistic that about 2% of women-led companies get fundraised, um get invested in, compared to 98% of male-led companies, and around the time I hadn't known at a conscious level I was feeling this way. But one day I went to pick up a teacup like lighter than this and pain Holly shot down my arm so badly I couldn't lift the teacup, I couldn't even lift it up off the desk. And my husband starts freaking out. He goes by me, ergonomic keyboards and stuff. So then I cross check Louise Hayes notes on carpal tunnel and it says anger at life's injustices.
Speaker 2:And so.
Speaker 1:I put myself in a healing position that I'm aware of and was taught. And I put myself in that position. I was like, well, what would be the opposite of being angry at life's injustices? Like who could I be if I weren't angry at life's injustices? And I realized I could be peaceful forgiveness towards myself and others. So every day I spend time in quiet reflection using the mantra I am peaceful forgiveness towards myself and others. So every day I spend time in quiet reflection using the mantra I am peaceful forgiveness towards myself and others, and I find it's very deeply healing for a variety of different ailments that we all might suffer from.
Speaker 2:Beautiful. You know that practice of doing quiet reflection and quiet peace, quiet prayer every morning is something that I I am so glad that you mentioned because it is an integral part of my life as well. Like I can't imagine, um, starting my day without having a practice anymore. You know, and I'm, you know, 90, I will say 98%. You know, sometimes there's a early airplane flight or there's you know something, but I basically it's a foundation of my day and I I'm guessing that you have practices that are foundation of your day as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on an average day I normally have a two hour practice and then on days where I travel or have a very early meeting that I might condense it down to an hour, but I try to keep it to one to two hours at the very least.
Speaker 2:Amazing and what are some of the core things that are a component of your practice? I mean, I'm imagining it's a very deep but just sort of in general for people to understand.
Speaker 1:On a typical day, my husband and I scan an ancient Kabbalistic text called the Zohar. This is I don't know if everybody can see it here. It's written in Aramaic and they have bigger versions in English, where they have English and Aramaic translations, and so we'll scan the one for healing and friends need healing or there's one one for prosperity, and they say that you can scan the zohar for 30 minutes every day. Even if you don't understand, you just scan right to left the aramaic version of it, and that you can send energy to yourself or others, speaking of frequency, and so we'll do that every morning and you can create anything you want for yourself.
Speaker 1:You do that for 30 days straight, for 30 minutes a day, that you can create any miracles, like I saw my husband do it with his business, we've been doing it with what we're doing as well, and it creates miracles in your life and the life of others. So we do that typically is the first thing we do as part of our practice is 30 minutes of that. Then I go into journaling, then I immediately go into writing what I'm grateful for at least 10 things followed by about 30 to 45 minutes of meditation. Immediately following that, I ground myself using white light up and down, then I go into inner child work for a bit and then the last thing I do is I talk out loud to God for 20 minutes or so and just ask questions and cross-check my intuition ask questions and cross-check my intuition.
Speaker 2:Beautiful, wow, that's inspiring, that's very inspiring. And so, and the Zohar, so it's in Aramaic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and English. So the bigger versions I don't have a big one on my desk, this is just a mini one that's called like um. That's a mini one on sustance, but there are bigger, red ones that have English translation. So you would scan it with your eyes, the Aramaic part, and if you wanted, prosperity, the most important tenant of Kabbalah anything you ask for yourself, you also need to ask for others. So, for example, if I was scanning the one for prosperity or for soulmates, I would not only ask for it for myself, I would scan it for everybody else I could think of who might need prosperity or who's on my meditation list. So, as you're scanning it, you could be making a wish in your heart for other people and for yourself. And then you can read the English and what I often do when I scan the Aramaic part, it's all ask for wisdom. In fact, I might even be able to pull up here, because I'll write down the incredible wisdom that gets downloaded to me as I read it and scan it.
Speaker 1:Let's see here what wisdom has the Zohar. It's also on my top 10 things I'm grateful for every day because my husband and I I'm always grateful when we have time to scan Zohar, and I write it down in my miracles list that I have time to do that. I also write my miracles down every day. That's so funny. Oh my God, I have so many lists here of miracles. I was trying to see if I had a quick note of something that I had heard from the Zohar, but I'm not seeing. Ah, zohar, your impatience stops you from enjoying life's gifts. So that was one piece of wisdom. You are not doing things with the intention to understand, but rather with the intention to accomplish. Wow, I didn't even remember writing that. But I'll often scan and then I'll have wisdom come down to me as I scan it beautiful.
Speaker 2:So when you're scanning the aramaic, you're not necessarily like reading the words. You're more like letting your eyes pass over the aramaic so for me, because I don't read aramaic.
Speaker 1:I know, know the Hebrew alphabet and the Aramaic alphabet, which are very closely linked. My husband does speak Hebrew and knows the Aramaic alphabet, so he'll actually read it out loud and say the words, and you can find the app. There's actually a Zohar where you can listen to it. You can either scan it with your eyes or you can hear somebody else reading it out loud for you, beautiful.
Speaker 2:Amazing. It's very inspiring to hear somebody else reading it out loud for you Beautiful, amazing. It's very inspiring to hear your practices and I'm sure others are receiving that as well. Just, you know, and I feel like the the essence of it and what I've carried is like is to because it can be very confusing right To like how we cultivate a practice, and I'm sure you've probably this practice that you do now that takes two hours, is something you've accumulated through various different people that have crossed your path and courses that you've done to come to where you're at. Am I right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's an amalgamation. I like to think of it as spiritual soup. So I have 183 tools that I use, including inner child work, zohar, meditation, oh, and heart focused breathing. I left that out. So as I transition from meditation to inner child work, I do heart focused breathing, normally for about five minutes from heart math as my transition out of meditation no-transcript, no right.
Speaker 2:There's no right or wrong, there's really. It's actually more about learning to feel what resonates and then actually do those things that resonate deeply.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and some things may resonate for a while and then they may shift, and that's a beautiful thing. It's not like there have been some practices that I added just back in recently, like, for example, chanting. I used to chant nam-ye-ho-renge-kyo, which is an ancient buddhist technique. You sit facing a white wall and you chant nam-ye-ho-renge-kyo, and I did that for many years, for probably a decade. I hadn't done that for a few years and then, all of a sudden, I I just picked up chanting again. Or Qigong a new one. You and I were talking about that. As we're talking about Lee Holden, join me for regarding consciousness, and Lee inspired me.
Speaker 1:I've been wanting to learn Qigong for years. My husband is very talented at Qigong, tai Chi and Kung Fu. He studied it for 20 years, and so I loved watching him. But if, if I'm honest and he knows this, I couldn't learn from him because he is a very precise man and so he would only teach me qigong or tai chi if the hands were like. We'd spend five minutes discussing the angle of the hand and I'm like, nope, I'm out, like I'm trying to teach me in a park in london one day and I was like, nope, we are not doing this and then I came across lee's teachings and Lee is much more fluid and just moving the energy and stuff. And so since I resonated with Lee, I've now been doing Qigong several times a week, which I love.
Speaker 2:Beautiful, beautiful. So I want to pivot to the Global Coherence Initiative because, yes, the Global Coherence P pulse, yes, because I know you're very involved with that and um, and as we look towards you know this coming age and the shifts that are taking place and going to take place in 2025 and 26. And I feel like this I just tell us a little bit more about it because obviously something that has to do with coherence frequency is at the base of that. So can you tell us a little bit about what that's about and why are you involved? What are you excited about with this program?
Speaker 1:Yeah, a friend of mine, Teresa Collins, co-created it in collaboration with HeartMath, with Dr Roland O'Crady in I believe it was March of 2020. And at the same time that Teresa did that, that's how I came to be kind of entangled with them in it is I had done a global meditation with Deepak Chopra and HeartMath and the Kabbalah Center and a bunch of people on March yeah, it was March 9th of 2020, where we got over 100,000 people meditating at the same time together. So that's how I tangentially became introduced to Teresa and Roland. Around that time and fast forward, they had been doing it for probably about a year when I got invited in September of 2021. And Teresa had seen I had another project I was doing, which was the Coalition for Global Unity, where every week we were doing a meditation with the top thought leader teacher from around the world. That introduced me to so many incredible people. So we did that for an entire year and when that came to a conclusion, teresa invited me to be on the board of the Global Coherence Pulse.
Speaker 1:And so now, as they've been doing since March of 2020, the third Saturday of every month, we have incredible luminaries who join us and facilitate meditations or thought provoking conversations and the idea is to pulse the planet with love and to ask ourselves what are we feeding the field? So sometimes Teresa hosts the pulse, sometimes I host the pulse, sometimes we co host the pulse. There's one coming up Greg Braden is joining us. He joined us last year and is joining us again this year. Lee Holden will be joining us in January.
Speaker 1:A dear friend of mine, jude Kirvan, who I do work with on the Unitive Narrative with the Evolutionary Leaders. She'll be joining us to share about her new movie, a short film she created about Unitive narrative and consciousness, and yeah, it's just been really enjoyable to get to collaborate with them. So we bring in 12 different thought leaders around the world. We have musicians who play music. It's free for anybody who wants to go. It's globalcoherencepulseorg and yeah, it's a wonderful way that we all come together and we have anywhere from 100 to 200 or 300 people normally live with us the third Saturday of every month at noon Pacific.
Speaker 2:Amazing, amazing. I so appreciate that. And you know and the work of HeartMath and what has come out of the work of HeartMath and maybe just to describe a little bit for people like I, just anything about the your understanding of the science, of that and how you know this, this, you know heart math. I'm so fascinated by the fact that they've got, you know, listening centers basically all over the planet that can actually measure when we're in greater coherence as a planet and when we're out of coherence. Is that right? Am I getting that right?
Speaker 1:I think you might be. There's two things. So there's GCP2. So it was Roger Nelson who headed up originally the Global Coherence Initiative which is GCPI, I believe it is and then we rolled it over for him a couple of years ago. So it does now fall under the HeartMath umbrella. Before it was a separate entity, but it does fall under HeartMath's purview now.
Speaker 1:And they do have random number generators where they can tell how incoherent or out of coherence the planet is. Roland and his team are also doing work with trees and, if anybody wants, one of the last episodes or shows that we did of the Pulse was with Roland, the head scientist of HeartMath. We had a wonderful turnout over 200 people, I think, joined us live and it's free. All the replays are free. So if you go to globalcoherencepulseorg, you'll be able to find I think it's like halfway down the screen you'll see the most recent replay of the one we just did with Roland.
Speaker 2:Oh, amazing. And tell me what's he doing with trees? I have a special connection with trees.
Speaker 1:Oh it's out. Oh my gosh, it's a. If you go to HeartMath's website I think it's heartmathorg You'll find the tree project I forget the exact name of it that Roland's working on, but they actually hook up monitors to trees to check out the interconnection of trees and the coherence of trees.
Speaker 2:Amazing. Oh, I'm so going to check that out. Thank you for bringing that to our attention.
Speaker 1:I think you can be a citizen scientist and for like five or $600, if you have a tree and it meets the criteria, you can be a citizen scientist and hook your tree up to be a part of the experiment. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:I might need to do that. I know you Wow, very cool. You know anything else, before we close, that you really want to impart with the people who are listening. You know messages that are coming through. You know something that's just really sparked your imagination, your delight, your, you know inspiring in the last. You know whatever, whatever's coming to that you would like to share.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in terms of what else is there to share? Well, one I put in the chat for you or, if you want to include it in the show notes the tree information, the interconnectedness of trees for anybody who would like that, just to support Roland and HeartMath. With that. What's really coming up for me is the importance of connection to ourself and others and our purpose, which is what I call the golden triangle of connection. And I think, with the emergence of AI and the future of what we're expecting to see with humanity and all of the big shifts we're expecting to see with humanity and all of the big shifts we're going to see globally happening, I think connection to ourself is most important and understanding how to connect deeply to others and to our purpose is really going to be of paramount importance as we move into this new time where we can use AI as an ally.
Speaker 1:I just did a podcast with a guy about this, one of the top AI podcasts, a guy named John Krohn and I did an interesting conversation about the intersection of machine learning and consciousness on his Super Data Science podcast. I think you can find on there and I think that there's an important way that we get to co-create this relationship of AI and our relationship to ourselves and others. It can be tempting to move into a ready player one sort of a world. It's one of my favorite books. It's a really fun futuristic book where everybody spends all their time in this metaverse and nobody goes out and connects to one another anymore. And so I think asking ourselves how can we cultivate deeper and more meaningful relationships with ourselves and others, thus allowing for the connection of purpose which is at the top of the pyramid?
Speaker 2:Oh, beautiful. Yeah, I mean, that's such an important question and I think we are coming back to, you know, greater connection with people and and and obviously with ourselves, right? I mean actually would say that the great um, the, the, the, the um. Essence of the, the discomfort, the dissatisfaction, the angst that people feel at the root of it is, uh, disconnection, disconnection with ourselves, disconnection with the planet. Um, you know, disconnection with ourselves, disconnection with the planet, you know, disconnection with the heart of who we are and that we're in actually a remembering process is a process of reconnecting with the planet, with ourselves, with other people. Do you, do you share that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly and I think that you know that's why I do the inner child work, that's why I teach. I do a lot of classes around the world about cracking the code of human connection. It begins with ourselves, because if we don't connect to ourselves, holly, it's the rest falls like a house of cards. So it's really critical and that we take the time to nurture, to develop that relationship to ourselves, to nurture, to develop that relationship to ourselves.
Speaker 1:I recently had a Halloween party at our house with like 80 or 90 people, and people always ask me when I have a party they say how do you have so many wonderful, kind, loving people? And what I've realized is, the deeper I've done the work on myself, the more that, as I love and accept myself fully. Every single person who shows up in my life whether it's like being on podcasts with you, holly, or people I have the pleasure of working with, or friends or even strangers I meet out in the world at restaurants or wherever everybody reflects back to me the love I have for myself. And so I think if more of us cultivated that deep, unconditional love for ourselves, the more we'd be met with it in the world.
Speaker 2:Amen to that. You know we see the world as we are, not as it is Ancient, ancient phrase. Right, like it really is true. I experienced the same thing, like you know, through all the deep work I've done. It's like I just have all these incredibly beautiful people in my life all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's it and understanding ourselves and others, because there are going to be times. I'm still human, I still get triggered and that's the work that we do at OptiMatch is looking at you know, where is there potential dissonance? We had a service provider lately who, every time I work with somebody, anybody can go to our website it's omapp forward slash survey and get a complimentary report which can help inform you for brothers, mothers, wives, husbands, whomever, to see how everybody's motivated and just ask inquiring questions about yourself. And there was a gentleman we were working with who was a service provider. I said, oh, would you mind answering our matching questions? It's free, anybody can do it. He says, great, I'll do it. Great, I'll do it.
Speaker 1:And later on the call I was asking him a few questions and literally he said no. And then he said no again and they said no a third time. And I'm starting to notice that I'm getting a little triggered and I'm like, geez, okay, I'm going to just do some heart focused breathing here and not take it personally, and I get off the call. And there was something I had to do that was, you know, this gentleman told me not to do so. I'm noticing that I'm getting pretty angry and frustrated about it and then I remembered I had his results, that he probably answered our matching questions and I went on there and 40 is the highest number you can get in any of our areas that we measure leachy apple, mango, pear, which is for achievement, whether you're motivated by achievement, facts and information, fun or other people's needs and when I looked at it he was almost as high as you could get, almost at a level 40 in Apple, and apples are motivated by information. And what I realized in that, holly, is that what we've seen over the last three to four years is that high apples often are always a no first before their yes. I said I dropped out of anger and into immediate compassion, and so that's my goal.
Speaker 1:Whatever tools you want to use, there are so many wonderful ones out there there's Enneagram, myers-briggs ours is more focused on motivators, but whatever tools you want to use Gene Keys, I love Human Design, I love Go out there, study yourself, study your own motivators, study how you're designed and then learn about others. That's one of the first things I do when I get to know people is I'll either send them to you know our thing omapp, forward slash survey we're all do their numerology or their human design or their gene keys, because it gives me a window into how to better communicate with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's such beautiful wisdom. You know that when we really it's really about understanding ourselves, and then you know what, what I took from that story that you just beautiful story that you told, is that when we understand another, you know, the heart of our compassion begins with understanding.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's so personal. How many of us take it personal? I was totally sitting there steeping and taking it personally. Why is he saying no to me? Why did he say no to me a second time? Why did he say no to me a third time? And then all of a sudden I go and look at his results. I was like oh, he's a high apple. We have a joke. If any of you out there get take our test and it says you're a high apple, you will write me an email to argue your results. So anybody who's very motivated by information, we jokingly say that you will want to argue that you're not an apple, because that's how we'll know you're an apple. You're like well, let's discuss it. But the minute you know that, then it becomes playful and fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, I just absolutely love our conversation and the wisdom and so grateful for you and the wisdom that you are bringing into the world and all the tools and your dedication to up leveling human consciousness in all these so beautiful ways that you shared. You're such a gift. Thank you so much for being here and sharing your wisdom.
Speaker 1:Thank you, holly, and thank you for the beautiful work you're doing and for introducing me to the Healy. My body thanks you for its strong immunity these last several months and I'm sure many other. All of my friends I've Healy'd in like. I think I'm up to like 50 people on my little client list, so thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you're so welcome. All right, take good care. And thank, yeah, yeah, you're so welcome. All right, take good care. And thank you everyone for listening and joining us today.
Speaker 2:And, um, wherever you are in the world, we send you infinite blessings and love. And to you, know, take this message that Jennifer shared to you, know, go within and really understand yourself and use that understanding. Help bring compassion, both for yourself and for the world, in whatever you're dealing with, whatever is crossing your path. I just think that it's such a simple thing and it not be underestimated simple to articulate, but to actually do the work and take that seriously and use that as a way to shift how you are in the world in more loving, understanding and compassionate ways. So, thank you all. I will see you again soon. Thank you all so much for tuning in. The greatest way you bring more of what you love into the world is to share what inspires you with others. If you loved this episode, please share it and leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform so others can find it too.
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