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Wild for Frequency
Wild for Frequency explores the human experience through the lens of frequency. Your host, Holly Copeland is an ecologist, mystic, and lover of all things related to sound, frequency, and music. She draws on her expertise as a scientist and lifelong student of spirituality to bring you conversations with thought leaders and experts on how the vibratory nature of the universe operates within our human bodies and shapes every aspect of our world.
Wild for Frequency
Unlocking the Quantum Universe: Personal Transformation through Frequency with Ken Close
Unlock the secrets to transforming your life through quantum frequencies with our special guest, Ken Close. With a bold blend of epigenetics, neuroscience, and engineering, Ken shares profound insights on how the quantum universe can empower you to become the architect of your own reality. Our conversation explores how the body serves as a playing field for energy fields, using them to amplify and support a thriving life. Drawing on concepts of the conscious and subconscious mind, we reveal how early experiences shape our development and how harnessing the body's innate systems, like mirror neurons, can lead to a more integrated and flourishing existence.
Discover how the molecular structures within us relate to energy, frequency, and potential, providing a gateway to endless possibilities. We delve into the fascinating world of atomic structures and the infinite potential held between the nucleus and electrons. As Ken discusses, only 3% of our genetic makeup is fixed, with the rest being adaptive and responsive to both internal and external environments. We touch on groundbreaking research showing how meditation and intention can influence genetic outcomes, highlighting the powerful connection between thought, emotion, and genetic expression.
In our final discussion, we explore the profound relationship between consciousness, perception, and energy transformation. Uncover the impact of the autonomic nervous system on your health and longevity, and learn about the transformative potential of bioenergetic fields and frequency healing. Ken introduces the Healy device, illustrating how external frequencies can influence biological systems. Drawing on insights from pioneers like Albert Einstein and Nikola Tesla, we discuss aligning thoughts and emotions with desired outcomes to manifest the reality you seek. Join us for a thought-provoking episode that challenges conventional wisdom and offers a new perspective on personal growth.
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Hello and welcome to Wild for Frequency, a show where we explore our energetic universe, the frequencies that make up that universe and how we can use frequency in everything that we do to improve our lives. I'm so delighted to bring you my conversation today with epigeneer Ken Close. Ken is an engineer who studied epigenetics and neuroscience and crosses them together in this delightful blend he calls epigeneering. We get super nerdy in this conversation, diving deep into the quantum field, into quantum potentials and how we can harness our understanding of the quantum universe to improve our lives. Buckle up and strap in for a very fun and deliciously nerdy conversation with Ken Close.
Speaker 2:Hello, I've been just so excited for our conversation since I first met you in Mexico at the Healy Conference a few months ago, and what I really was inspired by is the way that you understand the quantum field and explain how matter and how we can be architects and creators with this. You know this reality, that this 3d reality that we're in, and, because of your depth of knowledge in, you know epigenetics and neuroscience, coming from a background in engineering and science. Like I come from a background in engineering and science, I come from a background in science too, so we were really geeking out in Mexico together and I'm super excited to continue this conversation, this geek out conversation with you. So welcome to the show.
Speaker 1:Awesome, yeah, what a great place to meet right. Cancun, mexico. First of all. I mean, it's like the people that are there are already amazing and the energy field is already flowing and you know, the ocean and the environment and the ancient, ancient energy field that's there is just like right.
Speaker 2:Completely, completely, and I'll never forget we. I first met you standing on the beach talking to someone else in the morning and I stumbled upon a conversation with my friend and got to, got to hear your wisdom and it was like so in the weeds, like nerdiness, which is where I love to play. For those who know me well, I like geek out on on a lot of the geeky science things as well as the, you know, the sort of far out things too, but, um, I don't often get to talk to the people on the geeky science side, so I'm really looking forward to that today.
Speaker 1:But you know the, the people you meet on the beach, um, I mean, I mean especially like at sunrise, in the early mornings of the day, because that's another unique group. They're taking serious advantage of a circadian rhythm in which you know, an opportunity where we get pretty much just a couple of bridges between conscious and subconscious right, conscious and subconscious right, and I love talking about that because this is the geek out part where we should be taking control of our own empowerment, right, how we can build these bodies, how we can build this life through using fields of energy as amplifiers and supporters. Fields of energy as amplifiers and supporters. So that morning that we met, right, this is right there right after sunrise, and this is, let me just share a little bit. Yeah, so we are beings of light and the way that every cell within these organisms, this living organism, communicates is through a frequency of light, and so we have hundreds of systems, 400 systems go on and off or adjust, basically based on the optic signal of light or the absence of, and so, as the sun rises, there's a very amazing window in which that light is a special light, right, and it's a light in which we can be fed. I mean, quite honestly, fed an energy that supports these bodies. So I tend to level the playing field with the body, because we all have one. So if we can find some common ground to work on or work within, then I think we can start building a model that serves everyone. And so I use the body as that playing field or that model to start assisting others in creating a body that they can thrive in, in creating a body that they can thrive in. But there's some rules. I guess you might say there's a formula that we need to really take advantage of. And the conscious self and the subconscious self have a relationship. But the conscious self has a very small percentage of influence over the subconscious mind, right? It's like a 90-10 ratio, right, if you're lucky.
Speaker 1:A lot of people operate on subconscious routines, programs, you might say. Like your program in your computer does. It runs on these programs, and once a program is created, it just continues to run until some virus takes over and it shifts it, or the programmer can get in there and adjust some of that programming. So the subconscious is a program and we all have them. We were born into this world as these absorbing beings.
Speaker 1:You ever watch a baby. I think it's fascinating how they're just like totally turned on, you know. They're just like wide open and aware, and their brains are in this delta state. Right, there's this receiving state. Everything goes in as law, everything is law, everything is real, everything is true, right, right, no skepticism there, and and you can watch their bodies and they're trying to move and you know what they're doing. The body, the mind, is interpreting this content, the eyes are seeing this behavior pattern all around them and they're trying to get the body to do something like that, right, like mimic their world, and so that, well, humans still do it too.
Speaker 1:You ever fed a baby? You have a little spoonful of something. You open your mouth like ah, here comes the food, right, and so we, we have this tendency, as well as to mimic, um, our environment, and we have systems within our body, mirror neurons, that actually try to try to meld in with the environment. This is built into us, um, and so babies are, are continuously taking in information, um, trying to regulate it into action, um, eventually maturing enough to where they can start getting coordination and crawling and walking and self-sufficiency and all kinds of stuff. Right, this is great. There's a point in which this tipping point in which all of that content that's going straight into the subconscious brain starts to get analyzed, it starts to get maybe filtered right Somewhere around that 10, well, maybe even 15-year-old time. We're taking content in. Pretty much it's believable, and those are when these programs are being written.
Speaker 1:Traumatic experiences, joy, some high emotional response builds a program, and the higher the emotional response, the more solidified the program is in the subconscious right. And trauma is a big one, right, it's a big one when someone is involved in trauma of some sort. But also a lot of the core belief structures are built there things around money, things around money, things around relationship right, things around worthiness, and the internal belief structures are built right there. And so if we're in, maybe, a family environment that's really just barely making ends meet, we get subconscious routines built around our belief, around money, value. If we're maybe suppressed often or pushed aside, we maybe get some of these incorrect programs around worthiness or our own value, right. So all this stuff happens and it carries on into adulthood.
Speaker 1:So these are subconscious routines, and the reason I'm putting all that out there is because we have a couple of points with our circadian rhythm in which our conscious mind is really close, in other words, the window is open to the subconscious mind, and that is in the morning, as we're transitioning from sleep into wake, right, and then in the evening, as we're transitioning from wake into sleep, there's that little point in which we can start dropping in suggestions, we can start kind of reprogramming the subconscious where we're the most. I guess we're locked arms the best in that point. And so those are some really great times to make suggestions, and meeting you on the beach at sunrise is one of those times. You know, probably what I was saying was less profound, it was just it was the environment that created that profound experience, right? No, but the key thing is, is that's exactly time in which we're most creative and we're most we're most suggestible and we're're most influential? Yeah, is that time?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, oh, absolutely, and it's. There's so many beautiful ways that you can, just once you start to understand that and attune to that, use those time periods to um, yeah, start to rewrite or recode the program, as it were. I want to step out to your know the way that I actually want to ask some fundamental basic questions, because sometimes it's really great to get on the same ground together. And so, like you know, this program is all about using frequencies and how we can use frequencies to shift our health and wealth and all of the aspects of our life. And I'm really curious to start with some basic things like what is the quantum field, for example, because we need that's kind of the information field that holds the frequencies that we then can work with to shift our 3D reality. But can we start with what is in your mind? Give us an explanation of what is this quantum or information field?
Speaker 1:Sure, and that's a super great question. And it is the environment in which we create change, real change in material form. So, just as the variations in light from sunrise to sunset, there is a different frequency of that light and we can measure it Right. And that frequency of light that we're taking in through the optic nerve has different influence on systems in our body. Ok, so it's the same thing within the quantum field. The field, let's say that it's the infinite field of information, the quantum field.
Speaker 1:When we're talking about the quantum field, let's define what is that and where is that? Okay, so if you take a molecule, an atomic structure, and you, you pull it apart, you look at it, you've got, you've got the center, you've got the nucleus, and then you've got these bands, these orbits around the nucleus that are shells, I guess you might say, of its interior, which has electrons. So there's electrons flowing around and the number of bands and the number of electrons determines the molecule in which we're talking about. Everything is made of energy and everything has molecules, right? So even the oxygen we're breathing in molecules, right, the oxygen molecules, and they have frequency.
Speaker 1:Everything has a frequency to it, an assigned frequency. That's how we separate one form of energy from another form of energy, a skin cell from a bone cell, a bone cell from a water molecule, right, all of that has its own frequency. And so when we start to understand the tiny, the very tiny, and we take a look at the nucleus and we look at those valence bands in which those electrons are orbiting, the space between them, that's the quantum field, it's space. It's the space right, it's the ether, it's nothing. Well, what we may see as nothing, it is space. And if we take these bodies and we measure the space within every balance band, within that molecule, we are more space than we are matter.
Speaker 2:Right, I've heard it's 99.99999% of everything is space, exactly With a whole bunch of nines.
Speaker 1:We're only 0.00001% matter, right, right. And Einstein, the theory of the observer theory, right, was that, you know, matter cannot exist without an observer, right, everything is potential. So this is the right. You right, everything is potential. So this is the quantum field, everything is potential. So, in other words, even the molecular structures of our body is potential. It's not defined until the present moment, right, the next present moment is undefined, it's undefined. So if, if we understand that everything is frequency and the separation from one form of energy to another is its measurement and frequency, and every cell within our body, every different type of cell, from skin cell, bone cell, muscle cell, all have their own individual frequency and each one of those particular cells are more space than they are matter. Where you think would be the most influential spot? That well, I should say space that you could adjust material form in, the most influential would be the space, right, it would be the space. Right, it would be the space.
Speaker 2:And we're talking about David Bohm's field, right, we're talking about the unfolding implicate order. The world would have maybe been described as the ether in the original sciences. I know that was cast out, but then it came back now as the zero point field, right? So it's this field of spacious, infinite potential.
Speaker 1:Potential, the word you said there is. The most significant word that I want to point out during our conversation is potential, because the quantum field is infinite potential. Now let's take that theory and go further into genetic coding. So what I play in is epigenetics, or, like an epigenere, like an engineer, genetic outcomes. How do we do that? Well, we're doing it anyway.
Speaker 1:Everyone that's in your audience, us inclusive, everyone that's ever going to see this, is also an epigenere. They are creating their genetic outcome one moment by one moment, to the tune of 800,000 cells per second, and they're creating those through energy, through energy, right, every cell, 800,000 per second, is created by energy and 3% of the energy creating that cell is fixed. Now, when I say energy, I'm talking about proteins, right, the genetic code made of strands of proteins and amino acids, right. And building the actual form of the cell. Okay, 3%, this is epigenetics. 3% says it's going to be a bone cell, a skin cell, a muscle cell, whatever, all based on your heritage, right?
Speaker 1:You were born a female, I was born a male, I was born of a certain ethnic content, certain color of eyes, certain bone length, structures, all those things. There's 3% of that that's fixed. And as we grow and expand. Still, that 3% maintains how we look, so that our parents can recognize us if they hadn't seen us for 10 years, right? Do we still look similar, right? The other 97% of that genetic code, again being influenced by energy, is an adaptive gene. It's an adaptive gene reading its environment to build a host, a body that survives, and its way it survives is by being able to interface with its environment, right? So, wherever you are, now let me clarify a little bit about the environment, of that coding influence.
Speaker 2:OK, great, and then I want to stop the other question.
Speaker 1:OK, the external environment of the cell is the internal environment of the body. Okay, so it's, it's the internal environment of the body that's doing that. 97% of the adaptive gene influence. The external environment of us, aka the perception of our senses, is where we live, where we orbit, right where we are right now. So we're looking at kind of a filtering mechanism between the internal environment of the body and the external environment of where you live, but they're very, very closely knit and very influential of each other. Because, as the internal environment of the body signals the gene, how's it doing that? Remember what I said it's energy, it's frequency, and so when our senses perceive an external content, a trigger, a beautiful sunset or a crazy, dangerous experience, our senses see the content from our environment, creates thought within our mind. Thought creates chemical expressions in the body of emotion, and it's those thoughts and those emotions inside that are building that 97% of the adaptive gene code, and then the body becomes the version of the three-dimensional matter to function in its environment. You see that relationship.
Speaker 2:I do, I do and it reminds me of, I mean I'm. Are you familiar with the work of Ervin Laszlo?
Speaker 1:I've heard of. I have not looked at that work, but I know the name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's, he's fantastic and he, you know, is a, is a physicist as well, and he talks about something called informed energy. But it's not just it is energy, but it's not just it is energy, but it's informed energy, and that's like it's informed by the information fields, information energy. And so it feels to me like there's a really important piece here about the way that the information you know is shaping the energetic outcome. That has to do with intention and will, and there's a piece of kind of our, our intention. That's super important here and maybe you haven't quite gotten to it yet.
Speaker 1:Well, okay. So, like I mentioned, there's a, there's a formula.
Speaker 2:I mean this genetic coding um is going to happen and it is happening all the time or we wouldn't be here it has to happen, right, because the body still turns over at a rate of 800 000 cells per second.
Speaker 1:It's just gonna happen right. There is a phase shift thousands of times per second. Right, that bring you in and out of reality. You, I mean your entire system in and out, you know, thousands and thousands of times per second. And so this information field is the resource pool. It's just a resource pool, same with the genetic coding. The genetic coding is just a resource pool, and look at it this way, as there's infinite possibilities within that genetic code.
Speaker 1:Some of the studies that I've been involved in with the Dr Joe community is taking a look at some of when a cell shifts and changes, there's content that is emitted as that transfer happens, as that shift over happens. They're particles and in the dr joe community is is named them the mystical molecule, right? I love that mystical meal because I was in what's called a mystical study, one of the biggest studies on the planet, taking a look at how meditation influences genetic coding, the outcome, right, and? And they're using the body as the measuring stick, which this is again why it's a good idea to look at something that's tangible, that's measurable, but yet malleable, based on condition. Now you can place different conditions on it and you can see an outcome. And so that's exactly what that mystical study did.
Speaker 1:The environment was consistent. Amongst there was a thousand of us as subject. Study guinea pigs, right. Study guinea pigs, right. Uh, there was specimens, biological specimens taken prior. And then there's a seven-day training protocol, which we all had the same sleep schedule. I ate pretty much the same food. Um had the same content of information, did the same meditation practices for seven days, and then reassess at the end of the seven days and take a look at the difference.
Speaker 1:Right, it's a way of measuring and it's it's important that we measure um like before and afters, and then be very diligent in the between, right, in the between. This is how we gain, uh, great content of, and and and again, valuable knowledge around what we're doing. Is it useful, not useful? Is it having a result, not having a result? And so this molecular expressions, or mystical molecules. Every time a cell divides and changes, there is small particles that are placed into the organism or into the environment of you, and, to the tune of 800,000 per second, there's millions per turnover. They make a pattern. Though, even though there's so many possibilities, there's still a finite possibility, right? Because you are the one orchestrating the end result, the final outcome, and then the next second, there's another final outcome, and so on and so on, and there is so many patterns that are put together and these patterns are now being looked at to find out, you know, how are they generating specific proteins or molecular outcomes?
Speaker 1:And now the new studies are testing not just the subjects or the content that we were studying then, which was blood, saliva and stool samples. Now they're taking tears, they're taking breast milk, they're taking every kind of excretion they get their hands on. In fact, I was at the Source documentary in California when they launched that source documentary in April this year, and one of the head scientists up there on the stage he goes. You know, we're really thinking about using spinal fluid. Any volunteers I mean most of the audience raised their hand Heck, yeah, I'll do it. Why? Because we want to know a lot about our creation and there is a demographic of humans today that are really interested in creating a life on purpose.
Speaker 2:Right, okay, so great. So how can we, using all of what you said, which is fantastic, how can we use frequency and use what we know about the quantum field and, let's say, technology or other? You know, I know you've got some amazing technology you work with, I work with the Healy how can we use these tools to be better architect, architects of, to shape, shape our life?
Speaker 1:architects of to shape shape our life, shape, shift our life. Sure, better engineers, epigeners, right, yeah, and so this is it. Um, well, first of all, we need to measure. We need to be able to measure. Granted right, measure some aspect of your body and then have it be objective, because what happens when you change your diet? You know, you change diet, you get on this scale, perhaps maybe using that as the objective measuring, stick right, and yet the scale could be out of calibration from one day to the next. It could be changed because of barometric pressure, because of battery strength, because of all kinds of things within the device, or you as a person. You're not only influenced by just what you eat. You're influenced by your sleep cycles, your emotional conditioning, your hydration, all kinds of things.
Speaker 2:Okay, Right, and this is where wearables play such a great role. I mean the aura ring is you know? One example that I love, that you know you can actually start to measure. Oh, how does your heart rate variability change over time when you change? You know different when you start working with frequency, for example right, exactly, and so we need a measuring stick.
Speaker 1:And what I use is I use the autonomic nervous system. The autonomic nervous system is highly influenced by emotion, it's highly influenced by circadian rhythm, it's highly influenced by genetic coding. It is an interface, it is the core, it is the electrical system, again, not just electrical. It's using light as its transmission modality and it is measuring things within the quantum field. I mean, we need to understand. These bodies are now proven, now they're now proven to be precognitive, and it's like oh, what does that mean? Well, it means that you can have a thought and your body already knows what's going on, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's because we're actually consciousness first. I don't know if you subscribe to a consciousness first model, but I certainly do, so everything is consciousness.
Speaker 1:Everything is consciousness and everything has a consciousness right and and there are levels of consciousness.
Speaker 2:I think we have to be careful with that statement, and I could go into a whole nother. You know a tree of having a consciousness. I'm studying from Rupert Spira. I think a little bit differently about it, but if we stay with consciousness as the primary, consciousness is the primary actual thing that's happening here right, if we talk about human consciousness, there's a.
Speaker 1:There is a human consciousness, yeah, and there's. You know, again various belief structures around the measurement of of. You know again various belief structures around the measurement of. You know what a human consciousness level represents.
Speaker 2:I want to just, you know, I think we have to be careful, because if there is one infinite quantum field, then where does the human start and where does that infinite field take off? That's what I mean, and you can get really deep and esoteric pretty quickly with that. You know, because there's no in that infinite field, there's no separation, there is no thing that's that defines where a human starts and stops.
Speaker 1:Well, and this is again the work within Dr Joe community, there is again this unified field in which Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:I know what that means to be undefined between where one consciousness ends and another begins, right, right, so yeah, and so with you know, if we talk about the, you know the entanglement and quantum entanglement and what that means, and that you and I can actually communicate and feel each other across. You know space and time and and interact particles can interact, irrelevant of, of and time. Then it really does call into question what a human conscious quote unquote human consciousness is. But again, sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 1:And so if we're looking at again, there's there are. We have to. Okay, I'm an engineer. As an engineer, we have to place some knowns on the table when we're trying to build an outcome. Uh, then we build to that outcome and then maybe it changes the original known and then moves on further and further into different studies.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, so if we place a known as a consciousness is required to observe energy into matter, that's it. A consciousness is required to observe energy into matter. Stick with that. There's no way for you to see me without your consciousness. There's no way for you to see me without your consciousness. There's no way for you to evaluate my interface with you, my touch, my emotional content, my energy field without a consciousness to inhabit material form, to power your senses. There's no way. Now, there's a lot of levels of understanding around that, but still, in order for one person to perceive another person, a couple things are required. Right, a consciousness. Now that consciousness, you can be in a coma. Right, you as the body can be in a coma and there's still consciousness to you and there's a perception of you, or you have, I should say you have a perception of environment.
Speaker 1:Many, many studies have shown comatose bodies that could recall content and conversation, right, that were around them without their eyes open. Right, there's a, there's, there's some of your senses that remain intact even when the eyes are closed. What are they? We have our audio system is still turned on. You don't turn that off. Our olfactory nerve is still on, right, as well, as the reticular activating system reads magnetic fields. System reads magnetic fields. It reads magnetic sensations. There's perceptive content that goes into you as a body. You know, thousands of times per second. And when you approach somebody, you know oh my God, you feel that spidey, tingly sense, right, or whatever it is. People have this thing. Reticular activating system is 400 billion bits of information per second going through this neurological bundle.
Speaker 1:Okay, your awareness, your conscious awareness, is only 2,000 bits of content. If we're going to measure it like a computer, 2,000 bits of content. If we're going to measure it like a computer, 2,000 bits Reticular activating system, 400 billion bits of it. I'm reaching my hands really, really super wide. You can't see how far 400 billion is. It's a lot more information that's being received, understood, perceived and interfaced with beyond your conscious state, right, subconscious content. So the reason for understanding this is because your body is content in space and time. It's a tangible three-dimensional form of you.
Speaker 1:If we want a healthier body, there are some guidelines to understand, and these guidelines are interfaced within this quantum field of possibility. The guidelines mean that what you're taking in from your senses right you're assigning meaning to and the meaning you're assigning to it Builds biology. Right, why? Because the assigned meaning To, whatever content is coming in, has been built since A baby, since you were born, these subconscious programs, and you assign the meaning of it, justified or not, you not, you know. Hey, he said something bad about me, or she hurt my feelings, or or that accident was horrible, horrible and horrific, yes, okay, all those things are true, but we assign meaning to them, and that influences the autonomic nervous system. All right, and so the autonomic nervous system operates in what parasympathetic or sympathetic?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, right, various states sympathetic, which is fight or flight or or learning, it's, it's, it's the actual action stage of our lives when we're learning or working out or exercising or building a body.
Speaker 1:We're in that, in that sympathetic nervous system. Right, it's creating the other side parasympathetic rest, digest, rebuild. Okay, so if we're staying and this is what most people are not even aware of 85% of a human being's waking time in their day is in sympathetic 85%, most people. So the only time they're maybe getting an opportunity to be in parasympathetic is when you go to sleep. So you have 15% of your day that you're in, maybe the rest and digest. You go to sleep. And how many people are going to sleep at, you know, nine o'clock in the evening or when the sun goes down? Not very many, right? The majority of our parasympathetic repair, recovery and growth cycle is between midnight and 2 am, based on your circadian rhythm. All right, people are staying up till midnight, you know, or they're not sleeping well and waking up at 2 am. You're not in that deep state of sleep in that big, huge, amazing spot of repair, recovery and growth which is midnight to 2 am, and 85% of your waking day is also in sympathetic nervous state, so the body is getting very, very little time to repair, recover and grow. So the outcome winds up being a body that ages quicker, that develops disease and disorder faster or easier, becomes very susceptible to its environmental influences, whether it be the flu or the cold or some other disease or infection. Because when we're in that sympathetic nervous state, because when we're in that sympathetic nervous state, there are three very important and necessary systems that get their energy gets down regulated. Basically, they go offline.
Speaker 1:Three, Number one Number one is your digestive system. Digestive system loses its energy to function when it's in that fight or flight state. Why? Because it's not time to digest food. Right, you're not, you shouldn't, you're really not even eating then, right, you're in build mode, you're in creation mode or you're in run mode. Maybe you're going to be food. Remember, back there in the prehistoric days, you were being preyed upon by some kind of thing, whatever your belief structure is, but you know you were running from something, all right. So that's number one system. It goes, it loses its energy to digest food. Remember, 85 of someone's day is in that state and they just had lunch and maybe they had breakfast and maybe they had dinner all three of those meals during that state, right, so I don't care if you're eating a non-gmo, organic vegan meal. Your system is not taking that content and making it bioavailable to your cells and structures, all right.
Speaker 1:System number two System number two is your immune system. Your immune system, your ability to fight off a virus or an infection or something like that the energy is downregulated. Again, it's not time to worry about catching a cold when you're in that fight or flight mode. Okay, all right, fair enough. System number three reproduction. It is not time to create life when you're running for your life, is it no? So people that are trying to build a family, people that are trying to create because they want to build, they can't. There's no offspring being made, there's no fertility because the the, the egg and the sperm are are just not effective, right, okay, so there's just no energy within those systems to do their job. And this is again the they're very necessary systems, but the body just does this objectively, it doesn't matter, yeah.
Speaker 2:You said the key is there's no energy in the system to do these things, and so how can we create, you know again, kind of getting back to the frequency, tools and techniques how, what are some practical ways that people can actually, you know, turn on the, the systems that promote digestion, rest, recovery, immune system and and create, you know, the lives that they're here to create?
Speaker 1:Well, very, very similar to how an automobile works right, you go and you get your car, you start your engine. Right, it uses energy to start that engine and it comes from where it comes from the battery, right, and then your engine starts to run. There's some form of recreation or rebuilding of energy from your engine back into the battery. So it's recharging those batteries right. Same thing. Our body does the same thing when we have a system that recharging those batteries right. Same thing. Our body does the same thing when we have a system that recharges our batteries.
Speaker 1:When we have a system that down-regulates the desire for that sympathetic, nervous response, you know, again, people are in stress because they're on all the time. They're on right, right. So a system that helps you turn off um, you know, a, a like like healing, is a great system that helps you change your mind. It helps put frequencies and energy into the body that help change the brainwave state right, and when you, we, as a consciousness that's using this organ called the brain, we may think we're the brain, but this is just a, a tool that we use right, um, to orchestrate um energy fields and thought and and wire in belief structures and hold memory. It actually doesn't even hold memory, by the way. I mean, you can. You can cut a brain cell open.
Speaker 2:You can't see what you were doing, five years old. No, it's in the information field.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so how many people will even grasp or accept and believe that that, like, where, where is my memories? Oh, it's in my brain. No, it's actually not. No, it's never been found there. It's never been found there. So because I mean there's studies and studies how people have traumatic brain injuries, right, um, and are able to lose their memory and then over time, able to recreate and rebuild because the the brain is so malleable, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, I work with. I'm a student of Eileen McKusick and in biofield tuning we work in the energetic field to transmute dissonance in the field, which are basically stored memories. And what Eileen likes to say is our field is actually where all our emotions and memories are stored, not the physical body. And so, yeah, I think that's actually been really shown now within the science that to your point, you know, you can take out a large chunk of the brain and it actually doesn't take away the memories. They get reprogrammed in from the field. So I think we can, you know, we can put that idea to rest right.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Well, it's that same thing is relative to where we're building a material body, because it is the field that signals the gene.
Speaker 2:Exactly the field signals the gene. I really want people to understand this, that the field is what is creating the genetic code in what we experience as the body. And so if we want to change something that's happening in the body, the model that Western science has been built on the biochemical model is kind of an outdated model, thinking that you need to change the cell at the chemical level in order to shift something in the body. But to me and I'd really like to hear if you agree with this what Healy does and other frequency tools do is they work at a more primary level to shift the information in the field, which then changes the cellular expression.
Speaker 1:And let's define also, like you mentioned, healy. We've talked about Healy a couple of times. Healy is both a microcurrent transmitter and electromagnetic field transmitter as well as an information field transmitter, or I should say an information field bridge as well as an information field transmitter, or I should say an information field bridge. So there's wider bands of frequency than Healy. There is light frequency, which I mentioned before, as we see the sun, whether it be a rising or a setting sun two different frequencies of light. There is laser therapy lighting. There is also audio or sound therapy. My voice alone is triggering hundreds and hundreds of different bits of content within just your belief structure, let alone the audio nerve and all of that conduction material within the brain, because that is then interpreted by your belief structures. So there's a lot of. So we have sound light. We also have vibrational frequencies. Um, you know, the earth has a certain vibration to it and we can attune to that right, right, um so does we all I would say all the time.
Speaker 1:So does a flowing river, so does so does a subway, train or or something like that. You know, the city has its own frequency, everything has its own vibrational frequency as well, and these things our bodies attuned to, and these are subconscious routines, things that, even if you're aware of them, even if you're aware of them, um that they're still going to happen. So how do we like, if you're living in a city and you have an apartment right by the subway and it's constantly having this certain vibrational field, how do you as a body in that space and time, become optimal? And it requires, it really requires, a very distinct health program. Right, a way of you as the conscious, you down-regulating influence, up-regulating cause.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a nice way to put it. Yeah, I would say another way that I might put it is to become the stronger signal. What I've experienced is that if I start to use light and sound healing I'm a sound healer light, sound, healing, frequency support with things like Healy it strengthens the bioenergetic field and starts to become the stronger signal to the lawnmower or the subway or these different influences that could kind of you know, or could be the person that yells at you that you can't, you know, tolerate right, or the the voice of somebody that really is irritating to you. The more that you strengthen your own signal and learn to do that, um, the you create shifts, cellular shifts in your body that actually, ultimately, will change your reality. You know, like such that one, these things won't bother you. But two, you know, let's say you wanted to move away from the subway you'll actually start to create movement towards the thing your life will start to move in the direction of, of health overall.
Speaker 1:Ah, so here's the hack, what you're saying, like, I love what you're saying right there, because, um, as we start to build a better bio signaling, um, it starts to change a biology that then becomes more empowered. Um, move away from the subway. How does it do that? So there is this interface. I spoke to you earlier about the internal environment of the body. Is the external environment of the cell Okay.
Speaker 1:So to build a body capable of moving, or I should say even willing, that orbits within boundaries of opportunity, keep that in mind the body that orbits within boundaries of opportunity to even move away from that subway.
Speaker 1:So we're using that same subject here In order for that to happen. There is a potential in the quantum field in this present moment in order for that body not to live by that subway, right, but it doesn't exist in the present moment only because the observer hasn't been able to solidify all the possibilities, all of the waveform into particle, into potential, into the actual nuts and bolts, right, and? And so oftentimes we don't, we look at so many opportunities as coincidences, right, and somebody just happens to walk up to you. You're in a coffee shop and a stranger. You start up a conversation with a stranger that happens to have this apartment that they're. You know they gotta leave right now and they need somebody to take care of it for a while, right While they're going and you're sitting there going, oh my God, I've been looking for an apartment and you you guys all of a sudden build up a relationship and, bam, you move from away from the subway.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, let's. It's such a beautiful example because I think this is so key and I think it's really the essence of. I think the work that you do is like how we move into the, to the new potential of what we want living away from the subway or whatever it is we want to create in our reality. When we're sitting in the apartment by the subway and we're like, damn it, I don't want to be in the subway anymore, I want to be in this new apartment. And the moment that we start to become aware of that this is what I'm hearing you say we become aware of it and we start to be open to the synchronicities in the universe that are going to try to bring us that new reality right. We start to sync up, like internally, with that new reality.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so listen, here's the formula.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:The. The formula is you have to build. It's like this. Use this as an analogy. You can't look at the fireplace and say, give me heat and then I'll give you wood. Okay, does not work that way. Right, give me heat and then I'll give you wood. No, you build the fire, then you get the heat. So the subway analogy you don't want to live by the subway. How many times does that subway going over ignite an irritant in your body and an angry rant, perhaps, about that condition? And that is exactly what I'm talking about. That's building the interior environment for the cell to view the exterior creation of itself. So the hack here, here's the, here's the rule.
Speaker 2:Yeah, give it to us, Give us the hack. Come on, ken.
Speaker 1:Here's the here's the rule. The rule is you have to build the environment ahead of the experience.
Speaker 2:In other words, we can't go get the wood we have to.
Speaker 1:We have to build the fire right and then the heat.
Speaker 1:So we have to build the other condition, the other scenario of our life before the body moves away from the subway. And the reason is because the quantum field is this infinite possibility. And every time you have a belief, every time you have a opinion, every time you have a solidification of all possibilities, aka imagination, into one outcome, the quantum field says I'm in, I am in, and let me give you all the evidence for that to be your reality. And so every time we get pissed off about that subway and we have some interior dialogue around its unusefulness, the quantum field says well, let me show you more opportunities for that unuseful condition, let me show you how your life is evolved around that interior creation.
Speaker 1:So the heat you want the heat, you want the new place to live. You have to build the fire, you have to build the environment, you have to build the model, you have to build the story. You have to build the fire, you have to build the environment, you have to build the model, you have to build the story, you have to build the reality of it. Before you're going to have a what we think is synchronicity or coincidence? The person in the coffee shop saying, oh my gosh, I just happen to have this apartment. You have to build it in the quantum field, where we are just taking all possibility of energy? This is just A thought is energy until it creates the chemistry in the body and the body creates the actions of the belief structures and those combine into your life?
Speaker 2:So that building of it is the feeling, is that I mean, from what I understand from Dr Joe's work and other work I've done, is the building of the fire or the, you know, the moving away from the subway is to actually embody the frequency of the thing you desire to create. So it would be like feeling, imagining, sensing what that new apartment feels like, really bringing that in as a felt sense, embodied within you as much as possible. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1:Let's break this model about a part. How do you experience heat from a fire? You feel it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's how you experience the heat from the fire. You feel it. How do you build the fire? Well, you go get the wood. With what? With your know-how, your thought, how do I get the wood? Where do I get the wood? What kind of wood? You know how much wood, all the planning phases and all that. So here's the key key. So the, the thought, the thought, um, the belief, structures, um, the, the alignment with the story. Okay, so that's all the electrical charge. It's the electrical charge because every time you have a thought, synaptic connections, fire together and they wire together and they create a uh, reality, information and all those thoughts that are entangled on how to get the wood and where to get the wood, and all the things about the wood, which is the material form of the fire, how to build it and then how to light it. That's all the thought construct. Okay, that's all the electrical components to this, to this waveform.
Speaker 1:Now, the feeling or the emotion of this living in a new apartment away from there, the emotion is the magnetic. That's the part, right? Okay? So, anytime we want to transmit information from one point to another in invisible space, we use what we use an emf, electromagnetic, right? The electrical part is the information, the magnetic part is the driver and it moves across empty, free space. It goes infinitely, omnidirectionally throughout the entire universe. So one thought, one feeling in one moment builds a model. So the more you do the one thought, the one feeling, the continuous model of what you do want, the more you'll outweigh the one thought, the one feeling and the one model of what you don't want. How many people do the other? They do the latter, don't they? I don't like this, I don't want this, I can't do this, I can't do that, and they build a model of what they don't want. And the unified field, the universal field, the quantum intelligence, the opportunities of infinite possibility build that why? Because the EMF electromagnetic field, the thought and the emotion are on what I don't want.
Speaker 2:Right, right. So you really need to magnetize in your being, with every fiber of your being, the thing that you desire, and then it's you know as albert einstein said right, you know, uh, what he's saying. Um uh match the frequency of the reality you wish to create, and you cannot help but create that reality yes, and in einstein he he opposed the quantum field.
Speaker 1:By the way he called it spooky action at a distance, right.
Speaker 2:Well he ultimately I think my sense is from all of his later writings is that he believed in it. He just couldn't prove it. So he was, you know, going with what they had at the time. But I think if he were here now he would they had at the time.
Speaker 1:But I think if he were here now he would, oh, 100.
Speaker 1:He would say you know, I I totally understand it because he he looked at it as an unsettling paradoxical yeah, you just couldn't explain it, so you know exactly, and nikola tesla, though you know um, took all of that to another level, right, understanding that if you really want to understand, uh, the secrets of the universe, understand that, look at it in terms of non-physical right. Right, um, the vibration, yeah, exactly, so that that that whole nikola tesla took that whole concept um around, uh, around particle and wave right, and then put it into the understanding that it has influence, um on these biological bodies. And, and we all know that one um that one quote of his, that that the moment that science begins to study the non-physical, it'll make more advancements in one decade than it did in the entire existence of science. Right, the non-physical right. Right, look, like you said, look in the entire existence of science right.
Speaker 1:The non-physical Right. Right, like you said, look in the terms of frequency, energy and vibration.
Speaker 2:yes, yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1:There's another quote that I want to share with you, from Nikola Tesla, and this one here was like oh, this is what hit me hard as an epigenetist. He said everyone should consider their body as a priceless gift from one who they love above all. A marvelous work of art of incredible beauty and mystery beyond human conception, and so delicate that a word, a breath, a look, nay, a thought may injure it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, such a good one. Such a good one. Yeah, well, I think that's a really beautiful place to wrap our juicy conversation. I thought we would dive deep into all manner of things quantum, and we certainly did, and I just so, so appreciate you, ken, and all of the wisdom that you're bringing into the world, and the way that you and your work is such a bridge to help people. You know be an empowered architect for their lives. I really see this in the work that you do and I so appreciate it. Is there any last you know something that you want to impart upon people? Before we close?
Speaker 1:I want everyone to understand you are the epigeneer, the architect of your life, the architect of this physical body and, as you mentioned, the bridge. This is why I have a bridge behind my background. You are the bridge. You, as a consciousness, as a thought, are the bridge between this infinite field of possibility and the reality of your life, including the body in which you inhabit. So, if you don't like any aspect of what you want or what you have, or I should say what you have then let go of what you don't want and let only your day be consumed, consumed by what you do want.
Speaker 2:Such beautiful wisdom. Oh, yes, yes, yes, thank you, that was perfect. Thank you for having me. Yeah, and I will put in the show notes for where people can find you, but just let us know what's. Is there a website or something that you would send people to that want to know more about your work?
Speaker 1:you know, um. If you want to get a hold of me, my social media platforms are kenneth close, k-e-n-n-e-t-h-c-l-o-s-e on facebook or instagram. Um, I have just created a a new platform, um, called the quora effect, which is essentially how healing is happening through energy, um, and a new platform called the Quora Effect, which is essentially how healing is happening through energy, and a whole platform of measurement and implication of energy technologies. Website to come. But you can send to Quora Effect Q-U-O-R-A-E-F-F-E-C-T at gmailcom, quoraeffect at gmailcom or effect at gmailcom If you want to dive into what we're doing there. Otherwise, you know, hopefully you guys will review this, this podcast, and share it.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, absolutely Well, thank you. Thank you again so much for your being here and sharing your wisdom with everybody, and thank you all so much for listening and I hope to talk. You know, see you soon on the next, next interview.
Speaker 1:Much love everybody, Thank you.
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